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Technical challenges (1067/5000 )

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	Most we've solved already, most noteworthy here:		Most we've solved already, most noteworthy here:
	* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)		* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)
	** with the (German) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)		** with the (German) Master Thesis detailing some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)
	** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)		** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)

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General project information

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	== General project information ==		== General project information ==
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\| Proposal name \|\| ~~...~~		\| Proposal name \|\| WissKomm Wiki
	\|-		\|-
	\| Website / wiki \|\| ...		\| Website / wiki \|\| https://borgnetzwerk.org/
	\|}		\|}

Timborg: /* Ecosystem (659/5000 ) */

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Ecosystem (659/5000 )

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	What we now need is professional legal and marketing support, or money to ensure we can pay for it. Then - no significant technical challenges ahead.		What we now need is professional legal and marketing support, or money to ensure we can pay for it. Then - no significant technical challenges ahead.

	=== Ecosystem (~~659~~/5000 ) ===		=== Ecosystem (948/5000 ) ===
	Describe the ecosystem of the project, and how you will engage with relevant actors and promote the outcomes?		Describe the ecosystem of the project, and how you will engage with relevant actors and promote the outcomes?

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	What we now need is professional legal and marketing support, or money to ensure we can pay for it. Then - no significant technical challenges ahead.		What we now need is professional legal and marketing support, or money to ensure we can pay for it. Then - no significant technical challenges ahead.

	=== Ecosystem (0/5000 ) ===		=== Ecosystem (659/5000 ) ===
	Describe the ecosystem of the project, and how you will engage with relevant actors and promote the outcomes?		Describe the ecosystem of the project, and how you will engage with relevant actors and promote the outcomes?

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	Many actors are already involved:		Many actors are already involved:
	* TIB		* TIB will host the digital infrastructure for the forseable future,
	* Wikimedia Deutschland		* Wikimedia Deutschland will support us in a Data Partnership
	* Several Universities		* Several Universities and their scientists want to populate and utilize our systems for their research
	* Friends in the CCC and other organizations		* Friends in the CCC and other organizations seek to contribute their skills and connections
	* Some smaller and some ~~smaller~~ content creators		* Some smaller and some larger content creators have agreed to let us work on their content

	We are all holding our breath for this final inhibitor to be broken.		We are all holding our breath for this final inhibitor to be broken.
	We are openly collaborating on proposals to overcome this hurdle and can't wait to finally build this knowledge infrastructure ~~everyone needs!~~		We are openly collaborating on proposals to overcome this hurdle and can't wait to finally build this knowledge infrastructure.
			We have scoped the ecosystem far and wide (some insights here: https://bnw.bnwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Resource_Flow_l.jpg) and, have talked to every node in the network and are constantly reassured: There is nothing like WissKomm Wiki yet, and we need it, yesterday.

			We're ready.

	== Attatchments ==		== Attatchments ==

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	E.g. which actors will you involve? Who should run or deploy your solution to make it a success? (max 2500 characters, be concise)		E.g. which actors will you involve? Who should run or deploy your solution to make it a success? (max 2500 characters, be concise)

			Many actors are already involved:
			* TIB
			* Wikimedia Deutschland
			* Several Universities
			* Friends in the CCC and other organizations
			* Some smaller and some smaller content creators

			We are all holding our breath for this final inhibitor to be broken.
			We are openly collaborating on proposals to overcome this hurdle and can't wait to finally build this knowledge infrastructure everyone needs!

	== Attatchments ==		== Attatchments ==

Timborg: /* Technical challenges (0/5000 ) */

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	We help with networking and utilizing their already great contributions into a cohesive knowledge infrastructure for audiovisual media.		We help with networking and utilizing their already great contributions into a cohesive knowledge infrastructure for audiovisual media.

	=== Technical challenges (0/5000 ) ===		=== Technical challenges (1067/5000 ) ===
	What are significant technical challenges you expect to solve during the project, if any?		What are significant technical challenges you expect to solve during the project, if any?

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Technical challenges (0/5000 )

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	Most we've solved already:		Most we've solved already, most noteworthy here:
	* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)		* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)
	** with the (german) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)		** with the (german) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)

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Technical challenges (0/5000 )

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	** with the (german) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)		** with the (german) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)
	** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)		** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)

			The key issue is that the next big issue is specifically ''not technical'' - precicely why it is so hard to overcome. We are engineers and developers, we can overcome technological struggles, yet legal are a different ballpark, same as marketing.

			What we now need is professional legal and marketing support, or money to ensure we can pay for it. Then - no significant technical challenges ahead.

	=== Ecosystem (0/5000 ) ===		=== Ecosystem (0/5000 ) ===

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Technical challenges (0/5000 )

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	(optional but recommended)		(optional but recommended)

			Most we've solved already:
			* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)
			** with the (german) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)
			** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)

	=== Ecosystem (0/5000 ) ===		=== Ecosystem (0/5000 ) ===

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	We do this by identifying venues that communicate scientifically sound, yet still commonly understandable.		We do this by identifying venues that communicate scientifically sound, yet still commonly understandable.
	These include almost every aspect of science communication (SciCom, or ~~german~~ "WissKomm" - we'll come back to that later), but also lectures and talks at the CCC, a public health podcast and every form of fact-checking.		These include almost every aspect of science communication (SciCom, or German "WissKomm" - we'll come back to that later), but also lectures and talks at the CCC, a public health podcast and every form of fact-checking.
	Our focus lies on audiovisual content, which is easily and frequently consumed, yet hard for machines to handle.		Our focus lies on audiovisual content, which is easily and frequently consumed, yet hard for machines to handle.
	We want to go beyond scarse metadata and poorly translated transcripts:		We want to go beyond scarse metadata and poorly translated transcripts:
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	One reviewer calulated a recommendation of 50.000 € annual budget, and while we would certainly appreciate the realization of this vision, we cautiosly dream a bit smaller:		One reviewer calulated a recommendation of 50.000 € annual budget, and while we would certainly appreciate the realization of this vision, we cautiosly dream a bit smaller:
	* One year, 45.000 €, of which		* One year, 45.000 €, of which
	* 20.000 € are dedicated to lay a legal framework, of which we already know we'll need between 5.000 € and 18.000 € at least to ensure we build a sound system that can sustainably support ~~european~~ citicens,		* 20.000 € are dedicated to lay a legal framework, of which we already know we'll need between 5.000 € and 18.000 € at least to ensure we build a sound system that can sustainably support European citicens,
	* 20.000 € dedicated to marketing, a concept we had to grow into, since we are scientists, developers and engineers first and foremost, and are only now ~~enetering~~ the attention economy arena. We strive to maintain our collaborative mindset by first jumpstarting our marketing ressources to then immediately give back to the community by giving this ~~visisibility~~ to the creators.		* 20.000 € dedicated to marketing, a concept we had to grow into, since we are scientists, developers and engineers first and foremost, and are only now entering the attention economy arena. We strive to maintain our collaborative mindset by first jumpstarting our marketing ressources to then immediately give back to the community by giving this visibility to the creators.
	* And 5.000 € are dedicated to a buffer, most likely consumed by physical production cost of previously digital goods, such as workshop posters, flyers, QR-code-bookmarks, etc.		* And 5.000 € are dedicated to a buffer, most likely consumed by physical production cost of previously digital goods, such as workshop posters, flyers, QR-code-bookmarks, etc.
	We seek to find a self-sustaining equilibrium, where - once enough people know, appreciate, use and share our fundamentally free services - donations can cover our running costs.		We seek to find a self-sustaining equilibrium, where - once enough people know, appreciate, use and share our fundamentally free services - donations can cover our running costs.

	Once we have the ball rolling, our maintenance mode does not much funding.		Once we have the ball rolling, our maintenance mode does not need much funding.
	The primary reason why we and nobody else has done "what needs to be done" is the legally unclear waters, the huge upfront organizational overhead and the low economic long-term incentive.		The primary reason why we and nobody else has done "what needs to be done" is the legally unclear waters, the huge upfront organizational overhead and the low economic long-term incentive.
	The reasons why we know that we can succeed right there are manyfold:		The reasons why we know that we can succeed right there are manyfold:
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	* Open Research Knowledge Graph (ORKG) and Wikidata are the two most noteworthy comparisons. Both are knowledge bases, specifically knowledge graphs. One is too narrow (Scientific Papers), the other too broad (literally everything noteworthy). If not for the computational and volunteering ressource limits of Wikidata, we'd likely not need another knowledge graph. Since they exist, we do.		* Open Research Knowledge Graph (ORKG) and Wikidata are the two most noteworthy comparisons. Both are knowledge bases, specifically knowledge graphs. One is too narrow (Scientific Papers), the other too broad (literally everything noteworthy). If not for the computational and volunteering ressource limits of Wikidata, we'd likely not need another knowledge graph. Since they exist, we do.
	* OpenJur and Wikisource are similarly large repositories of uniformly accessible textual data. Yet, both are legally simple: public domain data. We seek to annotate data not 70 years after the authors death, but just days after they ~~aired~~ it. If not for the legal limits, we'd likely be able to stitch together Wikidata and Wikisource to build everything the WissKomm Wiki needs. As it is, we can't.		* OpenJur and Wikisource are similarly large repositories of uniformly accessible textual data. Yet, both are legally simple: public domain data. We seek to annotate data not 70 years after the authors death, but just days after they published it. If not for the legal limits, we'd likely be able to stitch together Wikidata and Wikisource to build everything the WissKomm Wiki needs. As it is, we can't.

	Those two are the major ones: Store linked data as well as some large text data, such as transcripts and descriptions.		Those two are the major ones: Store linked data as well as some large text data, such as transcripts and descriptions.
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	Most we've solved already, most noteworthy here:		Most we've solved already, most noteworthy here:
	* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)		* SciCom Wiki: Fact-Checking and FAIR Knowledge Distribution for Scientific Videos and Podcasts (https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2505.07912)
	** with the (~~german~~) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)		** with the (German) Master Thesis some important bits: A digital knowledge infrastructure to provide information on scientific videos and podcasts (https://doi.org/10.15488/18996)
	** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)		** and the talk making sure we gaged the ecosystem correctly, SciCom Wiki - FAIR knowledge infrastructure for educational content (https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024/SciCom_Wiki_-_FAIR_knowledge_infrastructure_for_educational_content)

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	We have scoped the ecosystem far and wide (some insights here: https://bnw.bnwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Resource_Flow_l.jpg) and, have talked to every node in the network and are constantly reassured: There is nothing like WissKomm Wiki yet, and we need it, yesterday.		We have scoped the ecosystem far and wide (some insights here: https://bnw.bnwiki.org/index.php?title=File:Resource_Flow_l.jpg) and, have talked to every node in the network and are constantly reassured: There is nothing like WissKomm Wiki yet, and we need it, yesterday.

	We~~'re~~ ready.		We are ready.

	== Attatchments ==		== Attatchments ==